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Norman Pagett's avatar

Fortunately---we have books written to disprove your certainties of collapse and chaos.

True---these books were written by desert nomads who didn't know where the sun went at night, but knew that the stars were just holes in the blanket of night darkness.

Volcanoes told them of the burning fires waiting below for 'sinners', and bolts of lightning from an otherwise benign sky-being offered the certainty of a wrathful god if we did not repent our sins.

the physical process of birth led to the logical conclusion of 'beginning'... (it all had to start somewhere)....and such a beginning had to have been in a 'lost paradise'----to which we must strive to return.

in the meantime, we must go forth and multiply, and in so doing, consume the planet through our god-driven greed..

but religious dogma blinds us to the fact that it is that one word--greed---that will bring about our collective demise.

we each consume beyond our need, and beyond that which the planet can supply and accomodate.

Musk and Bezos et al, are just extreme examples of the human condition.....we are all infected with it to a greater or lesser degree, and whether we belive those holy books or not.

I---and millions like me, can go anywhere on a whim, and earn more in an hour than it costs to feed me for a week. I can eat exotic foods from around the world if I feel so inclined---virtually free.

That is the basic, destructive EROEI that is causing the planet's support systems to collapse---the sheer consuming weight of all of us.

But the godnuts point to their books, and insist it will go on forever.

it won't.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/End-More-resources-humankind-unsustainable-ebook/dp/B00D0ADPFY

Joe Clarkson's avatar

I wonder why B fails to mention the coming change in human population? He alludes to it with "extinction risk" and "foraging", but never quite comes out with a clear-eyed discussion of the die-off.

Perhaps the certainty of the premature death of 99% of the global population (leaving 90 million people, at most) is too dire to confront directly, but no discussion of The Empty Quarter is complete without tackling it. Perhaps that's in Part III?

And none of our decisions about what to do tomorrow make sense without understanding what's coming. Those of us who have family or other people we care about should be making preparations to help keep them from dying. It's as simple as that.

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