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Kimberley's avatar

I am trying to adopt a lifestyle from the early 20th century. They didn't have internet, but they had telegrams, postal mail, and radio. A little electricity can go a long way if you don't need it for heat or transport. And neighbors are the most important resources for a civilization. Ask anyone who has survived a flood or wildfire. Thank you, B, for helping us see through the nonsense about needing more data centers and more housing developments.

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From B's post:

"Adopting a much less materially intensive lifestyle could, however, match the availability of diesel supply, and together with a persistent fall in birth rates could ensure a smooth landing towards the end of this century when oil finally runs out. Yes, I know this might sound messy and pessimistic for those pinning their hopes on this technological civilization going on forever and a day"

Actually, this sounds far too optimistic. The global market economy, capitalism and the financial system that undergirds capitalism are not going to survive continuous economic depression. A financial crisis could cause a collapse virtually overnight and there is no such thing as a global command economy waiting in the wings to take over.

Historically, times of food stress cause birth rates to go up. This is why the "Limits to Growth" Standard Run shows birth rates increasing rapidly when food per capita declines significantly. The increased birth rates can't keep up with mortality rates however, so the population will decline, but it won't be a "smooth landing". It will be a die-off.

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