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Momo's avatar

Great article, its crazy how such a solar farm is barely (or not even) viable in the sunniest region on earth, germany is heading for a cliff...

I also think solar and battery prices approched a minimum and will rise with the general rise of material input costs. What happens if everyone tries to scale renewables and batteries but the world roles over peak copper? In the past declining ore grades were offset by scaling up mining operations, blowing up whole mountains, essentially just throwing more energy at the problem. What will happen to renewables/battery supply chain as diesel production starts to decline, curbing mining and heavy transport industries? Solar panels and copper etc. are only this cheap because china mines so much coal, mining, transport and industrial heat for blast furnaces all comes from fossil fuels...

I agree that solar can play a role in local self sufficiency. The future must be local, with a much smaller material/energy footprint and it must involve organic farming/permaculture. We must learn to live with less before we are forced to. Intermittend solar can work well households or small scale local maufacturing.

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pyrrhus's avatar

Very interesting! But any scheme that requires batteries cannot be economically viable, because batteries are entropy hogs...Every cycle loses quite a bit of energy, something like 15% for auto batteries, and the batteries themselves deteriorate fairly rapidly even in a temperature controlled environment...We have rooftop solar, which is balanced and fully supported by the grid and doesn't require batteries...and it still doesn't amortize its cost very rapidly...Only when electricity costs go much higher, which they will, can it become a reasonable investment...The Emirates are extremely wealthy, so they can absorb the costs as essentially an insurance policy..

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