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I find the life and times of Isaac Asimov instructive in understanding the changing attitudes towards our scientific slowdown. In 1956, at the height of America's oil growth, Asimov wrote the short story "The Last Question," in which mankind spends millions of years confronting the problems of entropy. Mankind, in some form, makes it all the way to the end of the space and time and reshapes the cosmos with our consciousness, literally becoming a god of the next universe. It's hard to find a more optimistic vision of human progress, to say nothing of his works in the iRobot series.

Near the end of his life, however, in the 1980's, he seemed to have taken the lessons of the Limits to Growth to heart, warning that our population was several times greater than what was sustainable and that near-term human extinction was a real possibility. Like many serious scientific thinkers, the oil slowdown of the 1970's and the failure to obtain new sources of energy seems to have put a damper on his techno-optimism.

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It is ironic and misguided to say that rational science has failed us because we see it being increasingly sidelined in society and then return to LtG, adaptive systems and running out of road. The data of collapse is the fruit of rational science and rational science is being sidelined because it presents the politically unpalatable theorems of declining EROEI and overshoot to a public that doesn't like them.

There's a reason engineers and mathematicians are so overrepresented in the various studies of the collapse of civilization.

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