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Joe Clarkson's avatar

"Now, all our wise betters and elders can think of is how to totally mess global supply chains up; as if making sure they break right on schedule".

This is the silver lining in the dark cloud of the Trump presidency. The collapse of modern civilization is inevitable and, when it's over, a much smaller population will be left with a damaged world to live in. The sooner and faster collapse happens, the better that world will be.

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G Wang's avatar

QUOTE: "The fundamental mistake the west made, and what the Chinese economy foolishly repeated was attempting infinite growth on a finite planet."

We need to be clear about one thing: historically speaking, the Chinese at first emphatically did NOT want to adopt the modern industrial narrative at all. The very notion of trading in their traditional way of life and traditional way of thinking for a way of life and a way of thinking advocated by foreign barbarians would have struck the (premodern) Chinese as beyond ludicrous. So why did they eventually adopt the modern industrial narrative, then? Because if they didn't, then it would have been easy for those who did to TRAMPLE on them, as the Europeans and the Japanese did during the 19th and early 20th centuries. The brute reality is that, while in the long run the modern industrial narrative (which takes infinite growth as a given, of course) is indeed a recipe for devastation and ruin, in the short run it does yield enormous material power. Power which enables you to trample on others -- or avoid being trampled upon. The Chinese were not fools. They were FORCED to take that path. They had no other choice. (I shall assume letting oneself continue to be trampled upon is not a viable choice for anyone.) And China's story was probably repeated in many if not most other non-Western cultures, too.

The West is the main culprit behind what China has become today. And the Devil may pay well in the short run, but the long run is now.

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