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Joe Clarkson's avatar

"Failing to recognize what’s going on and sticking to a fantasy land version of reality, however, will only usher in destruction far faster and far more drastically than it otherwise needed to happen".

Let's hear it for fantasy land! As you note, what's happening to Europe will eventually happen to all industrialized economies, including North America and the BRICS. As you also note, overshoot is rapidly destroying carrying capacity. Thus, the realistic view is this: the more the inevitable collapse of industrialism is delayed, the worse the damage to the ecosystem and the larger the population of humans affected. Kicking the can down the road a few more years or decades just makes all outcomes much worse. Let the destruction begin, now.

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Greeley Miklashek, MD's avatar

HA, HA, HA! And no mention of our massive human overpopulation/overconsumption driving environmental and climate collapse? Shame on you. Here's the truth: too many humans are using too many natural resources and producing too much pollution, GHGs, and global heating. We are now 3,000 times more numerous than were our ecologically balanced self-sustaining Hunter-Gatherer ancestors just a few thousand years ago. Living in clans/bands or 150 or fewer (the Dunbar number) and dependent on only the natural resources available in the immediate surrounding area, we maintained a steady worldwide population number under 10M, but our eventual jump to sedentary agriculture giving a surplus ("capital") and increasing dependence on symbolic territory allowed the explosion of our numbers and the fine mess we're in today. QED. I was politely asked to leave my teaching post at Marietta College, in Marietta, Ohio, for saying this truth. Some have choked on this truth. Or, maybe, it was when I shared the latest C3S climate collapse numbers: current GAST (Global Average Surface Temperature) increase rate of 0.2 degC annually, thus leading to the extinction level of 6 degC over the 1919-2020 baseline by 2047. Probably a combination, don't you agree?

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