Thank you B🙏I also liked Dawn of Everything and share your liking to small communities that could figure out how to lead in a different way. And maybe also,different way of living and leading according to seasons...
I appreciate this article. Somehow, most people with a grasp on overshoot are subscribing to the notion of "but the West is truly noble, deep down, at least in their fight against Russia and China". No idea why when the lack of the West's nobility is staring one naked-ass in the face everyday. Conversely, those who do not demonise China and Russia are gleeful about China's (and recently Russia's) economic growth, with no reference to limits at all.
Barely anyone I read would come up with your two old men image, which was a hilarious and scary picture of where we actually are.
Regarding the belief of many people that democracy is the highest achievement, I would like to share a quote from my favorite book*:
After all the ideological narrow-minded debates of the democratic phase, whose goal was the creation of an eternal paradise, the realization is gradually gaining ground in people's minds that everything was in vain, that everything that strives upwards must also come down again. Larger contexts are recognized and the context of one's own culture in the course of the world is understood as another patriarchal flare-up of another culture that is now approaching its end. This "panta rhei" creeps into the consciousness of the last people who now stop fighting, give up, let go and submit to their fate. The debates between right and left are not only long over at this point - the narrow-minded disputes of their fathers and grandfathers of democracy and the arrogant looking down on 5000 years of history from the egocentric perspective of a civilization that once thought it had made it with democracy and human rights once and for all will be an embarrassment to the last people.
*Unfortunately this masterpiece of a book is only available in German: "Ein Buch für Keinen" (A book for no one) by Stefan Gruber.
Thank you B🙏I also liked Dawn of Everything and share your liking to small communities that could figure out how to lead in a different way. And maybe also,different way of living and leading according to seasons...
I appreciate this article. Somehow, most people with a grasp on overshoot are subscribing to the notion of "but the West is truly noble, deep down, at least in their fight against Russia and China". No idea why when the lack of the West's nobility is staring one naked-ass in the face everyday. Conversely, those who do not demonise China and Russia are gleeful about China's (and recently Russia's) economic growth, with no reference to limits at all.
Barely anyone I read would come up with your two old men image, which was a hilarious and scary picture of where we actually are.
Yes, "the cyclical nature of our history".
We are definitely reading the same books.
I would just add Ian Morris and Peter Turchin to the list.
And I will read Michael Hudson as soon as possible. Thanks for the advice.
Regarding the belief of many people that democracy is the highest achievement, I would like to share a quote from my favorite book*:
After all the ideological narrow-minded debates of the democratic phase, whose goal was the creation of an eternal paradise, the realization is gradually gaining ground in people's minds that everything was in vain, that everything that strives upwards must also come down again. Larger contexts are recognized and the context of one's own culture in the course of the world is understood as another patriarchal flare-up of another culture that is now approaching its end. This "panta rhei" creeps into the consciousness of the last people who now stop fighting, give up, let go and submit to their fate. The debates between right and left are not only long over at this point - the narrow-minded disputes of their fathers and grandfathers of democracy and the arrogant looking down on 5000 years of history from the egocentric perspective of a civilization that once thought it had made it with democracy and human rights once and for all will be an embarrassment to the last people.
*Unfortunately this masterpiece of a book is only available in German: "Ein Buch für Keinen" (A book for no one) by Stefan Gruber.
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